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| a quarterly conversation with... ellen meister |
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| insolent rudder: In your flash fiction story, “Womb-O- Matic,” you write, “it occurs to me that I could give birth to anything.” Do you view the creative process as a birthing process? If so, can you write anything? How do you conceive ideas that later become stories or novels? ellen meister: Yes, it’s exactly like the birthing process. After I push out an eight-pound idea, I insist people bring flowers and then stand over my creation weeping with joy. Then I make them go home so I can take a nap. But I’m afraid my creativity is a bit more limited than the character in that story. I do like to experiment occasionally—especially in the flash format—but when it comes to longer fiction I have a definite comfort zone I tend to stay within. I’m very driven to entertain and, in fact, have an almost pathological fear of boring the reader. So my longer fiction does a lot of tap-dancing to keep the reader engaged. That includes sprinkling the pages with humor and dropping in teases about what is yet to unfold. My ideas usually start out very small and, unfortunately, don’t grow organically. I have to work pretty hard to turn one of my teeny inspirations into a story. For instance, my forthcoming novel, SECRET CONFESSIONS OF THE APPLEWOOD PTA, grew out of the idea that I wanted to explore the secrets and heartache beneath the PTA faces I see so much in my daily life. That doesn’t come close to being a plot, so I starting writing reams of notes on different directions I could travel to achieve that goal. The result is a book that I hope delivers equal amounts of humor and pathos. insolent rudder: Flannery O’Connor once said that anyone who survived childhood has enough material to write for the rest of her or his life. You’ve written about the pain—and the resilience—of childhood; how has your own childhood affected your writing and your storytelling? ellen meister: I actually have a syllogism for that. All writers are people who had painful childhoods, but not all people who had painful childhoods are writers. There are exceptions, of course, but the thing is, having a certain amount of pain growing up drives you inward, forcing you to be more contemplative than the lucky folks with idyllic childhoods. (All that time swimmin’ in the swimmin’ hole, having raucous yet wholesome fun with your brothers and sisters, turning down prom dates and posing for Norman Rockwell paintings leaves little time for real thought.) For some, this introspection grows into the desire to scratch words onto paper in an effort to make sense of it all. It did for me. insolent rudder: Who are your literary role models? Which teacher inspired you the most to write? ellen meister: Sadly, none of my childhood teachers inspired me to do anything except swallow my gum so I wouldn’t have to wear it on my nose. But I did have a college professor who taught me that rules were meant to be broken. His name is Raymond Federman, and since he writes metafiction, we’re about as different as two authors can be. But he stretched my rigid thinking, which was a good thing. The single biggest influence has to be J.D. Salinger. Other Salinger fans may cringe at that, because he inspires such proprietary feelings we tend to get a little queasy when someone else claims to appreciate him as much we do. One of my goals as a writer is to understand how he manages to touch so many of us so deeply. Meanwhile, I’ll have to be satisfied with copying his penchant for italics. insolent rudder: Henry Miller once remarked that “every day we slaughter our finest impulses.” How can writers keep their finest impulses alive and still be “marketable”? (Or should writers even worry about being “marketable”?) ellen meister: I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to write commercial fiction, as long as you enjoy commercial fiction. If you think it’s all crap and that you can toss out a mainstream novel in your sleep and make a few bucks, you’re better off selling real estate. Because if you don’t love what you’re writing, it’s going to suck. Trust me. Besides, the odds are so stacked against selling any book, no matter how good, that you may as well write what you love. insolent rudder: In Lu Chi’s Wen Fu (The Art of Writing), he talks about facing “the terror,” which is facing the fear that the “inkwell may run dry.” Since a writer may face the fear of a “dry inkwell” on a fairly regular basis, what do you think is the best way to deal with that fear? ellen meister: Read. It not only chases anxiety away, but clears the fuzz that keeps your ideas jammed in a corner. insolent rudder: What’s the best piece of writing advice that anyone ever gave you? ellen meister: To paraphrase Salinger: write the story you most want to read. insolent rudder: What’s the worst piece of writing advice that anyone ever gave you? ellen meister: Probably one of those foolish things they try to drum into you in elementary school, like never end a sentence in a preposition. Ridiculous. Who came up with this? It has nothing to do with the English language. I think that knowing what advice to take and what to throw out is one of the trickiest balancing acts for a writer. On the one hand, it’s important to have an open mind and understand that your work can always be improved. But you have to stay focused on your goals, because there are a hundred different ways to write any particular story, and anyone who gives you advice will offer it from their own subjective, and usually quite valid, viewpoint. I belong to an online writers’ workshop, where we post stories and critique each others’ work. The way I deal with the input is to read each review with an open mind, neither accepting nor rejecting the advice. Then I let it sit for a while before revising the story, giving my subconscious a chance to sift through the comments. When I finally do my rewrite, it’s very clear which recommendations make sense for me. insolent rudder: As you sit at your desk and write, what books surround you? Which books on the shelves give you the most incentive to write? ellen meister: It’s funny, but I find that whatever I’m reading at the moment has something important to teach me. Whether it’s the most intense literary fiction or something lighter (I tend to alternate), there always seems to be a small gem somewhere that has exact relevance to whatever I’m working on. It’s a phenomenon, and makes me think that there’s divine providence at work every time I pick up a book. Or maybe my subconscious reads over my shoulder with a flashlight looking for the pieces that fit the gaps in my paragraphs or characters or story. At any rate, I want to point out that writers who refuse to read anything even slightly commercial could be missing out on some important lessons. There’s always something to learn. Even when I’m in a masochistic enough mood to read a book that’s so bad it makes me angry, I find something of value. I’m not advocating that people read terrible books, just that they keep an open mind. insolent rudder: What’s the relationship between writing and life? ellen meister: Life is a bowl of cherries. Writing is where you get to decide what to do with the pits. Want to find out more about Ellen Meister? Go here and here. |
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